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by Steve Grindlay
21 Sep 2009 18:26
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Kirkdale/Dartmouth Road New builds
Replies: 69
Views: 33755

Regards the plans for 105 i think these modernise the building and split the shop acomodation apart from the flat making it more attractive to residents. You're quite right, bag lady. When I first saw this application the documentation wasn't available. It looks better better than I feared and may,...
by Steve Grindlay
16 Sep 2009 17:52
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Kirkdale/Dartmouth Road New builds
Replies: 69
Views: 33755

It looks as though those who are keen to see the last remaining buildings in Kirkdale replaced by nice, modern ones are going to get their way. This recent application proposes: "the alteration and configuration of... 105 Kirkdale... to provide a smaller retail unit and a 2 bedroom self-contain...
by Steve Grindlay
15 Sep 2009 19:30
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: CHURCH HAS APPLIED FOR CHANGE FO USE OF CP CINEMA
Replies: 41
Views: 24301

leaf wrote:There is no crystal palace cinema to change into a church
That's curious, there are certainly some who believe there was a cinema on the site:
http://cinematreasures.org/theater/28989/
by Steve Grindlay
11 Sep 2009 12:48
Forum: Town Cafe
Topic: Help wanted locating the Champion family history
Replies: 6
Views: 5780

I can’t really help you with your request for information on the Champions, Ironman. Although I’ve information on a couple of dozen of them they seem to have moved around a lot and it’s hard to sort out who belongs to which family and whether, for example, the Stephen living at one address was the s...
by Steve Grindlay
11 Sep 2009 10:57
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Kirkdale/Dartmouth Road New builds
Replies: 69
Views: 33755

Just because it is old doesn't mean it is worth saving I assume that as you quoted my whole post you were attributing that remark to me. I neither said it, not do I believe it. What I do strongly believe is that no building should be demolished unless something better is going to replace it. If som...
by Steve Grindlay
10 Sep 2009 09:14
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Kirkdale/Dartmouth Road New builds
Replies: 69
Views: 33755

This shows the group of shops some years ago when still fairly intact. They were part of what was Sydenham (and Forest hill's) original shopping centre, laid out in the 1830s and known until the 1930s as the High Street. Olwen Carthew and the PO are the two shops the developers want to demolish. So ...
by Steve Grindlay
16 Aug 2009 18:11
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: Tewksbury Lodge.
Replies: 1
Views: 2825

Reg, the folly was built in about 1880 at the highest point of the garden of Tewkesbury Lodge, a large house on Honor Oak Road, obviously to take advantage of the spectacular views. The folly is now in the back garden of a house in Liphook Crescent, and listed grade II. http://farm4.static.flickr.co...
by Steve Grindlay
16 Aug 2009 15:44
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: German Embassy in Sydenham?
Replies: 30
Views: 51546

That’s brilliant, Chris. I do think it’s helped crack the German Ambassador story. Hermann Johannes lived at 73 Crystal Palace Park Road from about 1908-1912. From what you say he was back in Germany by 1914. The 1911 census confirms that he was the “German consul general”. Kelly’s Handbook (1912) a...
by Steve Grindlay
16 Aug 2009 12:29
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: John Sutton 1795
Replies: 2
Views: 3102

Minnie, Forest Hill barely existed at the time you estimate John Sutton was born here. The area was isolated woodland, some distance from Sydenham, until the building of five of houses on a remote corner of the common in 1794. Currently, the earliest use of "Forest Hill" as a name for thes...
by Steve Grindlay
15 Aug 2009 20:56
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: German Embassy in Sydenham?
Replies: 30
Views: 51546

To answer your last question first, Chris, Lambourne House School no longer exists. It was founded in Lambourne House, 84 Honor Oak Road, in about 1901 and was described as “a German High School”. Sometime after WW1 the school moved round the corner to Manor Mount where it continued until the outbre...
by Steve Grindlay
27 Jul 2009 10:03
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: 19th century shops
Replies: 1
Views: 2422

There were few, if any, shops in the area around the railway bridge in the mid-1840s. By about 1848 only the pair of shops between the Railway Tavern and The Greyhound (321 and 323 Kirkdale) had been built. At this time most of the shops in Sydenham were clustered round the junction of Kirkdale and ...
by Steve Grindlay
25 Jul 2009 14:39
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: 43 Sydenham Hill
Replies: 2
Views: 3871

This is not very good, Melvyn, but it is the best I can do: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3754313429_1fef50e14e_o.jpg It is enlarged from a poor quality postcard and shows 43 Sydenham Hill (also known as Woodlands) beyond the junction with Crescent Wood Road (hidden by the horse and carriage)....
by Steve Grindlay
23 Jul 2009 21:16
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: The Windmill that used to stand in Mill Gardens
Replies: 28
Views: 35841

Sorry for the delay in replying, Rob, I’ve been caught up with other things; holidays, talks, walks and so on. The photograph of the mill looking across the Costcutter site is one of mine. It is a photocopy and “V5-29” in the top right corner is supposed to tell me where my copy of the original is f...
by Steve Grindlay
22 Jul 2009 16:51
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: NO TO THE MOSAIC ON THE NABORHOOD CENTRE
Replies: 50
Views: 24860

I too think the mosaic is an excellent idea. It is a well thought out, carefully planned proposal. The people behind it are experienced; one of them has worked with Oliver Budd , who may well be involved with this project. I should also declare an interest as I have given information and images to h...
by Steve Grindlay
15 Jul 2009 20:29
Forum: Town Hall
Topic: Forest Hill Pools consultation
Replies: 88
Views: 81536

He has, Option 3 it is.
by Steve Grindlay
14 Jul 2009 19:39
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: Where Are The Crystal Palace Statues Now ?
Replies: 11
Views: 12201

tulse hill terry mentions the Thames statue at Lechlade here where he also mentions this statue of Pacific, which is in Dacres Road:

Image


Edited: thanks, Terry, I've put the correct link in now.
by Steve Grindlay
13 Jul 2009 09:36
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: Pictures of the Croydon Canal
Replies: 86
Views: 99834

This is David's painting (uploaded with permission): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3716472350_f4353ee17d_b.jpg The artist, Henry Gastineau, lived in Cold Harbour Lane, Camberwell from the early 1820s until his death in 1876 so knew the area well. The date of the painting (1836) is significant....
by Steve Grindlay
7 Jul 2009 12:44
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: The Windmill that used to stand in Mill Gardens
Replies: 28
Views: 35841

Rob, I'm sure you're right about the anomaly of a post mill being built during the 1830s. On the other hand, I still have difficulty accepting that it was built before the late 1820s. In a recent book John Coulter suggests that the mill might have been established by William Atherfold about 1837. Al...
by Steve Grindlay
4 Jul 2009 21:14
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: The Windmill that used to stand in Mill Gardens
Replies: 28
Views: 35841

A fascinating article, Rob, thanks. I do have a couple of comments. You say that in 1851 the Brigdens resided at “50 Mill Road”. This is not so, they were living in Mill Lane, later Mill Gardens, which in 1843 had just five houses. “50” is the householder’s schedule number. Each householder was give...
by Steve Grindlay
3 Jul 2009 16:34
Forum: Town Museum & Gallery
Topic: Old views of Sydenham Hill
Replies: 1
Views: 2499

Re: Old views of Sydenham Hill

The Baby Hospital seems a particularly sad loss... Actually, the "Babies' Hospital" is still there. It is Beltwood, next to the Dulwich Wood House. It was a babies hospital from about 1949 to 1962. I was told by an elderly resident that it was for "naughty girls", ie unmarried m...