RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by leenewham » 12 Feb 2016 16:44

Aren't they 45 minutes now?

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Post by biscuitman1978 » 14 Feb 2016 22:52

Latest coverage on the Greyhound in South London Press - http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/arti ... ?id=115943

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Post by harrym » 19 Feb 2016 09:30

I really hope a nice restaurant opens there. I'd love somewhere local to eat with the kids. We went to Honest Burger in Peckham yesterday and it's awesome. Somewhere like that would be perfect in Sydenham. Great food, great design, great staff and really good value. Hope you are reading this Honest... Haha!

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Post by sydenhamboy » 19 Feb 2016 16:52

I'm surprised Antic never came back seeing that they were originally going to open up (even to the point of having the Greyhound on their website) and they only pulled out because of the complete arse Purelake seemed to make of things. They still would have been the best bet, I would have thought - especially with their connection to south London and similar 'up and coming' areas like New Cross and Streatham.

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Post by Parker1970 » 19 Feb 2016 16:55

sydenhamboy wrote: 'up and coming' areas like New Cross
#ThingsINeverExpectedToHear

:) :)

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by Rachael » 19 Feb 2016 17:29

sydenhamboy wrote:I'm surprised Antic never came back seeing that they were originally going to open up (even to the point of having the Greyhound on their website) and they only pulled out because of the complete arse Purelake seemed to make of things. They still would have been the best bet, I would have thought - especially with their connection to south London and similar 'up and coming' areas like New Cross and Streatham.
Perhaps a lightly renovated Greyhound would have been cheaper to rent than the fully rebuilt incarnation.

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by ALIB » 19 Feb 2016 18:08

This is outside my comfort zone. But when the fire started at the boarded-up Greyhound, it was under ownership of Milford Homes. (correct me if I'm wrong)

The plot was sold to Purelake, very soon afterwards, and the current development approved. (albeit after unauthorised demolition)

It would seem that Milford and Purelake have a habit of walking the 'fine line' in terms of proposed developments.

fingers crossed for the Greyhound and surrounding units.

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Post by sydenhamboy » 20 Feb 2016 20:21

Parker1970 wrote:
sydenhamboy wrote: 'up and coming' areas like New Cross
#ThingsINeverExpectedToHear

:) :)
Ok maybe that's pushing it a bit but you know what I mean. I heard somebody mention Thamesmead as upcoming the other day. Now that is weird!

#yeahwhatever!

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#RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by biscuitman1978 » 24 Feb 2016 23:06

Just a quick reminder that you can follow the campaign to rebuild the Greyhound - and now to find an occupier - on Twitter.

Please follow and Retweet!

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by shibbycribby » 25 Feb 2016 16:57

Just seen Sainsburys posters being put up on the way back from work on the shop front to the right of the Greyhound, says opens March 17th, I guess that cements whats going in that block. Hopefully there's still room for an independent unit or 2 to go in round the back.

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by Rachael » 25 Feb 2016 17:43

shibbycribby wrote:Just seen Sainsburys posters being put up on the way back from work on the shop front to the right of the Greyhound, says opens March 17th, I guess that cements whats going in that block. Hopefully there's still room for an independent unit or 2 to go in round the back.
That unit is currently being used as a site office so maybe the posters are just there to alert people that Sainsburys is opening. I've seen Sainsburys bods going in and out of the unit at the back.

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Post by parker » 25 Feb 2016 17:47

shibbycribby wrote:Just seen Sainsburys posters being put up on the way back from work on the shop front to the right of the Greyhound, says opens March 17th, I guess that cements whats going in that block. Hopefully there's still room for an independent unit or 2 to go in round the back.
Makes sense that they are taking the larger fronted road-facing unit to the right of the Greyhound. Thought the discussions on here said they were going behind the pub...

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Post by biscuitman1978 » 25 Feb 2016 17:59

Sainsbury's are taking the unit to the rear of the pub (although they also propose to install an ATM in the unit fronting Kirkdale, adjacent to Harbour 321 fish and chip shop), as you can see from the plan below,

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The elevation below gives you an idea of what it will look like.

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by parker » 26 Feb 2016 08:02

It's strange they are putting a cashpoint in a separate unit to the actual store especially when that seperate unit is in a better location than where their shop entrance is going to be. Oh well, we shall see. This vacant pub building is worrying now though. Maybe the opening of the Sainsbury's will attract a tenant for both vacant units.

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Post by leenewham » 26 Feb 2016 12:06

Great idea. A pub/creche/playground selling organic real ale, wine and fruit drinks for the families, to be entertained in a story corner and upper show.

We could have child friendly tunes or childrens stories on the juke box! Everyone loves a bit of Roald Dahl.

We could call it 'The Greyhound and Puppies'.

I'm glad you suggested it Rod ;-)

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by Tubby » 26 Feb 2016 12:27

Does anyone know what happened to the proposed conservatory? I noticed there is still a big boarded up opening on that side but as it's on the market now does that mean all the building work has been completed?

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by parker » 26 Feb 2016 12:32

It might become a Foxtons :lol:

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by leenewham » 26 Feb 2016 13:17

The conservatory is part of the planning application, but they aren't building it (as far as I know).

Which is a shame. It would make a big difference to the ambience of the pub.

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#RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by biscuitman1978 » 26 Feb 2016 13:44

parker wrote:It's strange they are putting a cashpoint in a separate unit to the actual store especially when that seperate unit is in a better location than where their shop entrance is going to be. Oh well, we shall see.
I suspect that Sainsbury's preferred the unit to the rear of the pub because it's significantly larger than the one to the side. The ATM will, however, give Sainsbury's a presence on Kirkdale and the opportunity to include a sign directing people to the store.
parker wrote:This vacant pub building is worrying now though. Maybe the opening of the Sainsbury's will attract a tenant for both vacant units.
The pub has been on the market for only a very short time - since the end of January. I don't think we need worry too much yet.

In any case, the Sydenham Society has a pending application to designate the pub as an asset of community value. I suspect that potential purchasers/tenants will wait until that's resolved before making any firm offers.
Tubby wrote:Does anyone know what happened to the proposed conservatory? I noticed there is still a big boarded up opening on that side but as it's on the market now does that mean all the building work has been completed?
leenewham wrote:The conservatory is part of the planning application, but they aren't building it (as far as I know).

Which is a shame. It would make a big difference to the ambience of the pub.
Whilst planning permission has been granted for the conservatory, it will almost certainly be added only if whomever buys or rents the building wants it.
parker wrote:It might become a Foxtons :lol:
The planning permission is for A3 use (café or restaurant) or A4 use (pub/bar). Nothing else will be acceptable without a planning permission for change of use.

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Re: #RebuildTheGreyhound - pub to be rebuilt by April 2015?

Post by mosy » 26 Feb 2016 13:53

Does anyone know if a lift is planned to the upper floor? I imagine there would have to be one if not to discriminate against the several non-stair categories of people (though I'm no expert of course), assuming upper floor would be a public area.

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