2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Pally » 10 Oct 2017 18:42

I don't think it exists any more - the last update on SEE3 WEBSITE was last December. I think the money has gone.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by conti16 » 11 Oct 2017 08:10

Noted :-) and indeed I care very much about the place I lived now for over 8 years
Ghlpc wrote:conti16 it's clear you have have many frustrations about Sydenham and seem to care about it passionately..

However I think the 'tatty high street' thread is the place for this, otherwise all posts seem to get dragged into the same old discussion!!

just to add though I think our transport links are great and better than East Dulwich...

but back on topic - if someone or was organised enough and had to the time to set up something akin to the traders group in penge, I would happily contribute to Xmas decorations for the high street. ...

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Chris Best » 12 Oct 2017 07:58

Just to share the situation regarding the Christmas decorations. Lewisham Council has a long term contact with Skanska for the street lighting that includes putting up Christmas lights. The contract does not provide for renewing the Christmas lights so any new lights will need to be paid for and the Sydenham Assembly Co-ordinator has obtained quotes of around £250 per frame.

At the moment we have the wrap around version of lights in Sydenham because the light bulbs are they less likely to blow with heavy rain.

Residents have tried to fundraise for a more elaborate set of lights to include Cobbs Corner. As a local Councillor I welcome any effort from residents to give time and money and work out how many lampposts should be decorated in our high street.

As it stands Angie has said she will source the Christmas tree that will be a minimum of 20 foot above ground. Tesco's are applying to Head Office for the funding. Skanska have given a standard price for putting up the Christmas trees across Lewisham in the available tree pits, dressing the Christmas trees with the existing Christmas lights, turning on the trees at a time the community wishes and then dismantling and filling the tree pits after Christmas. The cost of this comes out of the Sydenham Assembly Councillors Discretionary Fund.

At the Sydenham Assembly Coordinating Group yesterday the concensus was to ask Skanska for fuller wrap around silver lights and silver lights for the Christmas tree. There are some blue wrap around lights and in the past we have requested all blue lights for the high street and tree, The years when we have had asked for the frames a good number failed.

We also agreed to hold the lighting up of the Christmas Tree in the high street on Saturday 9 December as Sydenham library will be lighting up their tree on Saturday 2 December. We are putting out a call for any local musicians and singers to come along and join in the carols and festivities on both Saturdays.

There will be some entertainment before the tree lighting - details to follow. I am also asking for any listings for the SEE3 Christmas calendar as we will produce this again - deadline 30 October - plus we need some volunteers to update the SEE3 web site. Please get in touch if you are willing to help.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Pally » 12 Oct 2017 10:58

Thankyou for the update Chris. I would really like to help but just ay the moment I really cant commit to anything. I am hopeful that my circumstances will change soon.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by leenewham » 12 Oct 2017 12:33

Just throwing a few ideas out there:

Kids rides for Christmas event in pocket park:
https://www.poplarattractions.com/kids- ... -bus-ride/

Christmas Market hire:
http://www.chaletevents.net/uses/christmas-markets/

Skanska are responsible for Farnham's Christmas lights, but they still managed to do something special:
https://www.visitsurrey.com/whats-on/fa ... 7-p1498411

Santa grotto hire:
https://www.bubbles-crew.co.uk/grotto-hire/

Other ideas:
https://www.sunshineevents.co.uk/christmas-theme

What about a shop window display competition with prizes?:
http://www.fineart.co.uk/article/window ... d-993.aspx

I'm sure some locals would chip in or someone can organise a prize.

With a strong traders group, much is possible.

Ideas, vision, funding, collective effort.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Pally » 13 Oct 2017 18:19

leenewham wrote:Just throwing a few ideas out there:

Kids rides for Christmas event in pocket park:
https://www.poplarattractions.com/kids- ... -bus-ride/

Christmas Market hire:
http://www.chaletevents.net/uses/christmas-markets/

Skanska are responsible for Farnham's Christmas lights, but they still managed to do something special:
https://www.visitsurrey.com/whats-on/fa ... 7-p1498411

Santa grotto hire:
https://www.bubbles-crew.co.uk/grotto-hire/

Other ideas:
https://www.sunshineevents.co.uk/christmas-theme

What about a shop window display competition with prizes?:
http://www.fineart.co.uk/article/window ... d-993.aspx

I'm sure some locals would chip in or someone can organise a prize.

With a strong traders group, much is possible.

Ideas, vision, funding, collective effort.
Great ideas Lee.

Chris just wondering if the Sydenham Assembly could consider some of these for 2018? I realise it is probably too late for 2017?

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by owlwise » 14 Oct 2017 12:16

Why is it that everywhere else they have nice lights on the lamp posts with no problems of bulbs blowing in the heavy rain but in Sydenham it is a big enough concern to concede with these boring lights?

Who's idea is it for BLUE lights?? The most un-Christmassy colour EVER. Why not traditional green, red and gold? Silver is boring.

Chris, I appreciate your post but who ever organises this needs more imagination. :?

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Pally » 14 Oct 2017 12:33

owlwise wrote:Why is it that everywhere else they have nice lights on the lamp posts with no problems of bulbs blowing in the heavy rain but in Sydenham it is a big enough concern to concede with these boring lights?

Who's idea is it for BLUE lights?? The most un-Christmassy colour EVER. Why not traditional green, red and gold? Silver is boring.

Chris, I appreciate your post but who ever organises this needs more imagination. :?
Chris said that silver lights were requested for this year! Sounds nice

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Steveofsyd » 29 Oct 2017 14:28

Everyone take photos of lights in other parts of town and post here sowe can compare after Christmas.

Even Shortlands which is a junction and has no high street to speak of, blows Sydenham away every Year.
It’s just one excuse after another,
Frankly if we had more commercially strong businesses in Sydenham AS WELL AS THE INDEPENDENTS, there would probably be a stronger traders group who would be willing to invest.
Imagine the Cobbs corner square with the new pub, Nandos, a Pizza Express instead of KFH, whatever your preference to create a hub for eating and entertainment that brings people in, all decorated for Christmas with a big tree.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Bovine Juice » 30 Oct 2017 07:00

I know exactly who all the hard working traders are who put the extra mile in for the local community events in Penge and they are all independent.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by Jimmeh » 30 Oct 2017 11:29

Steveofsyd wrote:Everyone take photos of lights in other parts of town and post here sowe can compare after Christmas.

Even Shortlands which is a junction and has no high street to speak of, blows Sydenham away every Year.
It’s just one excuse after another,
Frankly if we had more commercially strong businesses in Sydenham AS WELL AS THE INDEPENDENTS, there would probably be a stronger traders group who would be willing to invest.
Imagine the Cobbs corner square with the new pub, Nandos, a Pizza Express instead of KFH, whatever your preference to create a hub for eating and entertainment that brings people in, all decorated for Christmas with a big tree.
I lived in Sydenham from 2012 until July 2016 and now live in Chislehurst. I loved my time in Sydenham and I continue to own property in the area (let to a family member) which is why I continue to peruse these boards.

Chislehurst has a strong, committed, business group which contain both independent and regional/national traders and businesses. The group was initially setup with the prime purpose to find funding for Christmas lights years ago, and has since grown into much much more.

From the outside, I feel that Sydenham businesses let down the area by not committing to such associations. If such an association does exist, it’s not working.

These boards seem quick to point to the local authorities, but local businesses have a huge responsibility too. It’s the difference between an average high street, and a great high street.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by gillyjp » 1 Nov 2017 08:53

Do my eyes deceive me or have the same dodgy blue lights been wrapped around Sydenham's lamp posts against this year. 'Oh deep joy' do I hear a collective cry from long suffering Sydenham residents? BLUE? I cannot think of a more unseasonal colour! Must have bought a job lot from a boot fair, after all, it's only Sydenham so who cares? (tongue-in-cheek). Please I'd rather no decorations at all than that motley lot

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by leenewham » 1 Nov 2017 12:27

There is a thread about this from 2015 including links to what other areas are doing for Christmas:
https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic ... ts#p127301

Once again, this is where strong traders representation can make a difference.

These guys could do something:
http://www.thechristmasdecorators.co.uk ... gLo5fD_BwE

http://www.lite-ltd.co.uk/

http://saimollights.com/

But nothing will happen unless local people act. Councils don't want to do anything different, they are underfunded, understaffed, have political pressure within and loads of red tape. This differs from council to council, Lewisham suffers from it quite badly sadly.

If you want it to happen, set up crowdfunding, organise, get a traders group, pressure your councillors and MP and the Mayor. it could take years. Do it for the long haul. Don't take 'it can't be done' as an answer, which you will be told. It's nonsense.

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Re: 2017 Decent Christmas Decorations in High Street?

Post by syd » 18 Nov 2017 10:25

leenewham wrote:There is a thread about this from 2015 including links to what other areas are doing for Christmas:
https://sydenham.org.uk/forum/viewtopic ... ts#p127301

Once again, this is where strong traders representation can make a difference.

These guys could do something:
http://www.thechristmasdecorators.co.uk ... gLo5fD_BwE

http://www.lite-ltd.co.uk/

http://saimollights.com/

But nothing will happen unless local people act. Councils don't want to do anything different, they are underfunded, understaffed, have political pressure within and loads of red tape. This differs from council to council, Lewisham suffers from it quite badly sadly.

If you want it to happen, set up crowdfunding, organise, get a traders group, pressure your councillors and MP and the Mayor. it could take years. Do it for the long haul. Don't take 'it can't be done' as an answer, which you will be told. It's nonsense.
Any updates on this?

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