Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

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Ghlpc
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by Ghlpc »

The queue of cars on Mayow Road to turn onto the High Street today was past the entrance to Mayow Park.

Cars now U turn and cut through Dacres Road. Right past a School.

Such a clever, well thought out proposal.
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by Sydenham Syd »

I take it you’re being sarcastic and if so I totally agree.
I’m all for getting people walking and cycling etc, but I counted 44 idling cars waiting for the lights on Mayow Rd this evening as I walked up...I’ve got a funny feeling that the pollution built up there alone makes a mockery of the idea.
It’s just daft
Holaquease
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by Holaquease »

Not sure how wise it is to revive this thread but wanted to say how grateful I am for this LTN now that we're back in lockdown. I'm clinically vulnerable and no longer feel able to use Mayow Park as it's too busy with too little attention paid to distancing. Bishops Thorpe and Silverdale provide a quiet alternative. Traffic is now reduced to the point that its possible to walk on the road if the pavement is occupied.
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by stuart »

Plus me. Cycling to Forest Hill is now a pleasure - unlike the time I felt so unsafe that I did the same journey by car. Isn't that the point even if many have yet to get the message?

Sure LTNs are imperfect but that queue of 44 vehicles must give time for the occupants to consider if there is not a better way - and not just thinking Dacres Road. People will, on the whole, take the most convenient mode. Shifting the balance from one mode to another is surely the best way. If you are against LTNs enabling this then please don't oppose without coming up with a better suggestion. Unless you want to propogate the pre-Covid status quo that was literally killing us.

Stuart
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by perryman »

Sorry for the bump, but are these closures still in effect?
The road closed signage is still on the planter boxes on bishopsthorpe, but the central pole seems always to be down.
Vans and cars regularly enter the road, and as a cyclist, you can't really give them that look of disapproval, as quite clearly the road is open - the council have made it so.
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by syd »

LTN’s are great if you live in one those outside usually the poorer parts will see an increase in traffic. There seems to be no plan to provide an alternative to the car just displacement.

It seems like a shortsighted nimby move to benefit the already comfortable the rest of us can suffer
Holaquease
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by Holaquease »

It seems like a shortsighted nimby move
Surely if people want to live in them it's the direct opposite of nimby.

I love the LTNs and would like to see a lot more.
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by perryman »

I take then that rather being a short term trial measure, that these restrictions now are permanent.
And they are more of a width restriction/contra flow than a closed road.

I think I'm fine with that but conditioning drivers to ignore road orders, especially one telling us that a road is closed, is very irresponsible. If is is a width restriction, that's what the signs should say.
coll
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Re: Consultation on Proposal to Close Silverdale/Bishopsthorpe Road to traffic

Post by coll »

It has been said before but nothing seems to be being done about it. There is a guy who lives in the flats at the end of Bishopsthorpe who seems to be in the business of fixing cars. He was ordered to remove the vehicles several years ago. Now he's taken the opportunity to dump at least 10 cars and vans, a trailer and rubbish at the now closed road. Its a mess there and sad that it continues without any seeming intervention.
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