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a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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Live nearby? let Bromley council know what you think:

https://searchapplications.bromley.gov. ... U1NBTM9F00

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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It won’t be Hauwei at least....

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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The new rules require that Huawei kit must be removed within the next few years. So we don't really know what components are being commissioned in installations now.

However a few relevant extracts including a revelation that this is a mast to be shared by two providers.
The 5G antennas are some 3 times as heavy as previous antennas, while the associated Remote Radio Units also now need to be placed at the top of the pole, thus many street works designs are no longer structurally capable of hosting all the equipment of 2 operators. It should be noted that the alternative option that could accommodate both operators (EE and H3G LTE who have a site sharing agreement) would be a more traditional ‘greenfield’ mast, with an open headframe and more bulky design, which would be inappropriate in a street scene location. There is no such location in this cell search area where a greenfield mast could be housed and thus site sharing is not a viable proposition.
5. Technical Justification

Reason(s) why site required


The National Planning Policy Framework clearly states that authorities should NOT question the need for the service, nor seek to prevent competition between operators. Notwithstanding this fact, the Applicant considers it to be important to explain the technical justification for the site and how the facility fits into the overall network.

The site is required to provide new 5G coverage for H3G LTE in order to improve coverage in the area of Newlands Park. The cell search areas for 5G are extremely constrained with a typical cell radius of approximately 50m meaning that it would not be feasible to site the column outside of this locale.

7. Additional Relevant Information

Background to the Proposal


This specific proposal forms part of an integral requirement for H3G LTE to expand its 5G telecommunications network across London specifically in this instance to enhance 5G coverage levels and network capacity within the Newlands Park area.

Mobile phone base stations operate on a low power and accordingly base stations therefore need to be located in the areas they are required to serve. Increasingly, people are also using their mobiles in their homes and this means we need to position base stations in, or close to, residential areas.

A further limiting factor is that the position has to be one that fits in with the existing network. Sites have to form a patchwork of coverage cells with each cell overlapping to a limited degree with the surrounding base stations to provide continuous network cover as users move from one cell to the other. However, if this overlap is too great unacceptable interference is created between the two cells.

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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David Icke on the committee?

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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An update following a little more detailed scrutiny of the submitted drawings and Equipment Schedules from Hutchison 3G UK Limited.

it would appear that at least some of the proposed and specified equipment is undoubtedly supplied by Huawei.

The antennae specifications are unambiguously Huawei as are some of equipment enclosures specific for their kit.

I have NOT cross checked every thing that is scheduled but if you feel you want to examine the technical issues in more detail, visit YouTube and search for the phrase "Three UK London 5G".
JGD wrote:
21 Jul 2020 08:31
The new rules require that Huawei kit must be removed within the next few years. So we don't really know what components are being commissioned in installations now.
It might therefore seem my first commentary was a little more prescient than I knew at the time.

It cannot be forecast at this time whether the proposed installation will proceed with the current specification of Huawei kit included and if it does, will it require alteration in the near future to conform to HMG's fresh missive that Huawei kit cannot form part of the core network - whatever that phrase actually means.

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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This looks completely the wrong site for this.I would just like a 3G or 4 g connection in wiverton road. Have to use WiFi calling for the last 3 years when it worked before.

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Re: a 60 foot (5G?) mast is coming to Newlands Park

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Thanks for the information JGD. As from what you say, It does seem inappropriate to be placed on a public footpath. Planning will only consider objections on site and design. the detail that its 5G is allowed to be omitted from the main planning document. I have put my objection in as I believe a 60ft mono pole with antenna is totally out of scale against the neighbouring houses and out of character to the surrounding edwardian and victorian houses. Its at least 3 times as tall as the 3 story office block it will sit in front of.

Due to COVID or houses not owner occupied there doesn't seem to be much response. It would be helpful if people commented on this to help stop the 5G 60ft telecoms pole and antenna.

Heres the quick link for comments
https://bit.ly/3gnzeO3

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