Fox Cubs -Sydenham Road / Newlands Park

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chrisj1948
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Fox Cubs -Sydenham Road / Newlands Park

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We have found that there are five fox cubs living under our shed. I think they are 3-4 weeks old since their fur is still rather sparse and grey and their eyesight is poor. They abandon all caution for a packet of cat food. They are mega-cute.

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They are kind of cute. Hope for your sake they move on before they start mating and fighting over territory though!

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Isn't it wise to ask RSPCA or similar to remove them and re home them somewhere less urban..?

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Another friend had some foxes in similar close proximity.

And later fleas beyond number.

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Bunty wrote:Isn't it wise to ask RSPCA or similar to remove them and re home them somewhere less urban..?
:-) But they are the latest of many generations of urban foxes; connoisseurs of kebabs and chicken takeaways, who view their country cousins who still scratch a living for earthworms with amused contempt!

Tim: We have been feeding foxes for years now and there are always plenty around. I doubt if the flea situation will get any worse.

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Chris

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It might be something to do with having been brought up in a village with an active beagle pack and being completely unsentimental about wildlife, but it always amazes me when I encounter sentimental gushing about vermin. Do people feel the same way about rats? In those days, we used to send the terriers into the fox lairs and any cubs that were flushed were thrown to the beagles. We had the bloody things under a shed in a previous house and the damage they did, and their excretory excesses, were disgusting. The only place for a fox cub is at the business end of a large dog.

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sparticus wrote:It might be something to do with having been brought up in a village with an active beagle pack and being completely unsentimental about wildlife, but it always amazes me when I encounter sentimental gushing about vermin. Do people feel the same way about rats? In those days, we used to send the terriers into the fox lairs and any cubs that were flushed were thrown to the beagles. We had the bloody things under a shed in a previous house and the damage they did, and their excretory excesses, were disgusting. The only place for a fox cub is at the business end of a large dog.
What about tree rats (squirells)? I quite like them even though they are basically cute rats that dig up the garden

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"On Saturday, I went out fox-hunting – seven hours in the saddle,” Friedrich Engels wrote to his great friend Karl Marx in 1857. “That sort of thing always keeps me in a state of devilish excitement for several days; it’s the greatest physical pleasure I know. I saw only two out of the whole field who were better horsemen than myself, but then they were also better mounted… At least 20 of the chaps fell off or came down, two horses were done for, one fox killed (I was in AT THE DEATH).”
Source here

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I knew Fred was a bit of a plutocrat but the hunting angle is a new one on me so thanks for that, more ammunition when I argue with my left wing friends about the iniquity of the hunting ban. Of course beagling was a much more democratic affair, though some public schools and Oxbridge colleges had them, a few still do apparently. The pack in my village was run by the local pub. Most beagle packs went after hares and rabbits- foxes were a bit of a sideline but we did have terriers for the rabbits. Beagle packs were usually followed on foot. We rarely caught anything. It was an excuse for a ramble in the country with dogs and like-minded people. I had my first proper sexual experience in a shed whilst following the beagles!

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sparticus wrote:I knew Fred was a bit of a plutocrat but the hunting angle is a new one on me so thanks for that, more ammunition when I argue with my left wing friends about the iniquity of the hunting ban. Of course beagling was a much more democratic affair, though some public schools and Oxbridge colleges had them, a few still do apparently. The pack in my village was run by the local pub. Most beagle packs went after hares and rabbits- foxes were a bit of a sideline but we did have terriers for the rabbits. Beagle packs were usually followed on foot. We rarely caught anything. It was an excuse for a ramble in the country with dogs and like-minded people. I had my first proper sexual experience in a shed whilst following the beagles!
With a beagle?

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sparticus wrote:I knew Fred was a bit of a plutocrat but the hunting angle is a new one on me so thanks for that, more ammunition when I argue with my left wing friends about the iniquity of the hunting ban. Of course beagling was a much more democratic affair, though some public schools and Oxbridge colleges had them, a few still do apparently. The pack in my village was run by the local pub. Most beagle packs went after hares and rabbits- foxes were a bit of a sideline but we did have terriers for the rabbits. Beagle packs were usually followed on foot. We rarely caught anything. It was an excuse for a ramble in the country with dogs and like-minded people. I had my first proper sexual experience in a shed whilst following the beagles!
I can see why you might hunt foxes with dogs after all you aint gonna be eaten them so it dont matter if they get ripped to bits by the doogs but why bother hunting hares and rabbit that way? Surly it make much more sense to just shoot them so at least you got somethin tp put in the pot. I know before I cam to the UK an I went off into the countrysiide to see the cousins thats what my cousins did me too I shot rabbits and hares a couple of times. Rabbit cooked in red wine with like garlic and onions and rosemasry mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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I was there the other week. Nice place.

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A fortnight on, and the cubs look much more like foxes now. We think that there are only three left of the original five. It is a real squeeze for them to get out from under the shed now. They are more alert and cautious than they used to be.

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chrisj1948 wrote:A fortnight on, and the cubs look much more like foxes now. We think that there are only three left of the original five. It is a real squeeze for them to get out from under the shed now. They are more alert and cautious than they used to be.

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How does the vixen get in and out?

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dacreswood wrote:How does the vixen get in and out?
The shed is exposed on two sides, and then has a 15" gap to fences on the remaining two. We tend to stuff rolled up garden furniture covers, gazebos and suchlike in the gap entrances. I surmise that the vixen has an entrance in the enclosed region. A few minutes ago I heard a noise from one of the gaps, moved some tarps, and saw a charming little cub, who would probably have come up to me if the fabric pile had been a bit more secure. There is certainly a lair entrance somewhere at the rear of the shed.

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A milestone has been reached. At about 04:30 yesterday FoxCam picked up one of the cubs out in the garden at the food tray. A few minutes later the vixen, whom we have not seen for several weeks, put in an appearance. She must have started taking them out.

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All I can say is that I hope you don't have anyone anywhere in the vicinity who leaves unsecured bags of soiled nappies around, otherwise you may find your attitude to the cute cubs changing rather rapidly (she says from experience).

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Soiled nappies would be a small price to pay for the enjoyment we get from the cubs. The snap below was taken about 20 minutes ago. They get visibly bigger every day.

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sparticus wrote:It might be something to do with having been brought up in a village with an active beagle pack and being completely unsentimental about wildlife, but it always amazes me when I encounter sentimental gushing about vermin. Do people feel the same way about rats? In those days, we used to send the terriers into the fox lairs and any cubs that were flushed were thrown to the beagles. We had the bloody things under a shed in a previous house and the damage they did, and their excretory excesses, were disgusting. The only place for a fox cub is at the business end of a large dog.


Shame they've banned bull baiting and witch burning as well these days isnt it?

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